Talk:Alucard

Question
Hello, I have a question.

Is Alucard's immortality related to the number of souls he has absorbed? If so, how many souls has he absorbed? I heard the Major esitmated the number to be 200 million, but I'd need citations. Thanks.

~Evensong

Yes, it is. The Major did say that. I don't remember the exact point in which the Major said the souls Alucard had absorbed was related to his immortality, but Alucard confirmed it at the very end, in the VERY last chapter (Ch. 95) where he comes back to Integra. He says the number. Now if only I could find the site that I found it on...

P.S. It's considered polite to sign your name at the end of your posts. Right now, we have no idea who you are. Thanks!

BlazingStar 22:50, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

My sincere apologies for my indiscretion. Furthermore, thanks a lot for your response. I couldn't thank you enough. :)

~Evensong

According to chapter 95 Alucard had 3,324,876 souls. DawnDispatched 21:14, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Where are the sources?!
In this article, there's all this stuff about his background that I've never even seen hinted in the manga- either one (normal Hellsing or Dawn''). ''For example, where does it say he was Count Dracula or what his real name was? I understand that all his servants were killed, and that he was executed, but how do we know that "he waged an all-out war on the Turks that devastated both sides"? I'm way too lazy to put all of these "citation needed" tags on. There are way too many of them needed. Can somebody please tell me where to find all this information- and, if possible, put citations on them?!

BlazingStar 00:04, March 1, 2010 (UTC)

All the information on Alucards past can be found in Volume 8: Order 11 Castle Vania. :) - TheColorEarth

Thanks, I found that chapter! Somehow I had forgotten about all of that stuff it said about his background. Still, a lot of things in the article seem to be speculation. Isn't there a rule against that somewhere?

BlazingStar 00:26, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

His Guns (New Article)
I'm really, really trying to avoid making big changes without making sure it's alright to do it. Like chopping out a huge section of the article.

I was thinking of giving Alucard's guns, the Jackal and the Hellsing ARMS Casull Auto, their own pages, since they're seen so much in the story. Is this okay?

BlazingStar 00:26, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

Believe me I have absolutely no problem with new pages being created. As for chopping off a large section of the article, what part were you planning to erase? I think that the page is a bit too long, but I wouldn't delete anything just because the same information is on another page. I probably will get around to deleting allot of the useless and repetitive knowledge, so if you see something that looks like its already stated, is pure speculation, or really isn't important, by all means please delete it. Thanks for asking by the way, allot of people wouldn't do that.

P.S. A page for the "jackal" weapon is already created; here's the link: Hellsing ARMS 13 mm Auto Anti-Freak Combat Pistol 'Jackal'. Long title huh. :)

-TheColorEarth

Yeah; I wasn't thinking of deleting a lot of stuff just yet, just the guns so that they get their own pages. Thanks, I saw the article. LOL It is long; I thought I'd shorten it a bit for convenience. BlazingStar 04:11, March 26, 2010 (UTC)

Suggestion
Any chance a few words about the "The Bird of Hermes Is My Name, Eating My Wings To Make Me Tame" line could be covered ?

The way I figured it since Hermes is both the god of commerce and is in the business of delivering the souls of the dead to the underworld, Alucard might have something to do with him.

The Ripley scroll is mostly an alchemy study so it's probably only about how mercury should be added in small amounts so to not make the product unstable (un-tame).

But for Alucard it may hold some reasoning to why he allows himself to take so much damage, because it "tames" him.

-btw, Hermes has no bird associated with him, but his shoes are winged and such were given to heroes on quests. I think his ability to travel to the underworld is also tied with his talaria, but I'm not sure were I read that, sorry :(

At least the quote should be attributed to the Ripley Scroll, with a nice alchemy reference.

~r.j.k

It's possible that Kouta had just heard the poem and thought that it would be a nice additon to hellsing. It isn't unlike him to take inspirations from other things and use them in his work. For example, Seras's signiture weapon Harkannen is named after a character from Frank Herbert's novel Dune. The character from the novel has no relation to vampires or the undead but is still used in the manga. I did however look up the poem on google and found a nice interpretation by Joni DaNerd on yahoo answers. Here's a link if you're interested.

TheColorEarth 23:16, March 23, 2010 (UTC)

It's not exactly a famous poem, hell, it's not even an occult item but more of an academic essay material... regardless, I'm just saying that it's worth a footnote :D

I feel the same about the Cromwell invocation, I'm not suggestion laying down a theory involving the reforms in the English church that were going through at the time (***), but I will want to see a footnote linking to some Cromwell bio.

btw, I always thought the Harkonnen had more to do with House Harkonnen, seeing as they favour heavy infantry and land vehicles as opposed to the air\naval forces of the House Atreides, but seeing how both Vladimir Harkonnen and Vlad Tepes share their name, I can how the other connotation might work :P

- p.s: besides dealing with royal houses and such, hellsing has some common points themes dune: 1. alucard wants to be defeated by a worthy opponent just like the worm. 2. trade: blood and spice to be specific 3. millennium are trying to use their technology to win against alucard, only to fail like the Tleilaxu against the worm - not worth noting I suppose, but just thought I'll throw it out there ;)


 * my idea is that Alucard got himself involved with the English reign and church at the time since the English church was going protestant meaning no more excommunication for poor old Vlad :P

~r.j.k

Edits
After a few tries due to this wiki being different than others I have worked on when it comes to undoing things, I fixed vandalism on this page and reverted it to the last unvandalized version. WolfMaster 01:53, October 16, 2010 (UTC)

Alucardxseras?
alucard.and.seras's.relationship?

hello.(sorry.broken.spacebar)

it.says.in.the.wiki.that.alucard,has.feelings.of.affection.towards.his.young.flegding.seras.

what.kind.of.affection.

what.do.we.know.about,thier.relationship?.

many.fans.of,hellsing,see,them.,as.mates.orlovers.etc.as.i.do.bu.there.are.many.fans.who.see.them.as.a.father.daughter.relationship.

there.are.many.hints.and.other.evidance.about,thier.relationship.in,the,ova.and.anime.such.as.when.seras.holding.up.her,top.after.a.nightmare.

and.alucard.smiling.pervertedly,at.her?

a.father.would't.do.that/it's.messed.up.

so.i.have,to.ask......where.do.they.stand.with,thier,relationship?


 * These people have been drinking a lot. Their relationship is sorth of Master/Servant and Father/Daughter friendly. I don't think they have something as mate/lovers, not at all. And Alucard smiles like that to everyone all the time.  [̲̅-̲̅>̲̅] [̲̅B̲̅є̲̅я̲̅и̲̅α̲̅я̲̅d̲̅ ̲̅W̲̅σ̲̅l̲̅f̲̅]  ( talk ) 15:44, February 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * If anything, their relationship is platonic in nature. Nothing else. /-/ Jetscream [[Image:Hannah-022.jpg|14px]] ( Officer's Mess ) 15:55, February 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * I can kind of see how fans can think that about their relationship, but fans also like to ship protagonists with anything that has ever shared a panel or scene with them. Seras really fascinates him. After all, Alucard doesn't get to study normal human behavior all that often. (He's usually busy killing humans because they stupidly get in his way. The only other humans he knows is his boss and her butler, who are definitely not normal.) So when he got the opportunity to save her life, he did, thinking it would be interesting to keep her around.
 * I agree with BernardWolf- Alucard just has a plain creepy smile. So when he smiles at Seras in amusement, it just looks plain perverted.

--BlazingStar (My talk) 19:37, February 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * I hate to be a bother but am I the only person getting slightly irritated at the person who keeps trying to add in the "it is implied/hinted that Alucard has romantic feelings for Seras!!!" all the time? I think the people reading the article will be able to tell that romantic feelings are implied without someone pointing out the painfully obvious to them. Hakushaku 01:36, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

Someone should clean up...
I'm not a wiki expert but since this wiki is dedicated to the hellsing series it's pretty obvious all the characters were in the hellsing franchise and were created by Kouta Hirano. In other words my point is someone should get rid of unnessesary information. Shepski4 01:46, March 20, 2011 (UTC)


 * Wait, it says somewhere that a character isn't created by Hirano-sensei? I'm confused! Where?! O.O I just fixed the thing in Mina Harker's page about her being a character created by Bram Stoker today, so...other than that, does someplace on the wiki name other creators?
 * --BlazingStar (My talk) 01:31, March 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * Honestly if anything needs to be cleaned up it's that relationship section. It is just so bland, and I hate to nitpick, but the writing is absolutely appalling. I think the dynamic between the characters are much deeper and can't exactly be summarized in one or two sentences. Hakushaku 15:06, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

Making Kouta Hirano Proud
Everyone(Hellsing) page will be fix and will be thoroughly checked. I will spend hour making sure the information we have isn't fasle or is being misplaced. I will be contacting Kouta Hirano to clarify the information.

Schrödinger Powers a.k.a René Descartes' philosophy: Immortal Alucard
Understanding that as long as Alucard thinks he is, he is. Meaning that technically Alucard is no longer immortal. However, due to his life span and experience in strategy or inteligence, shouldn't Alucard be considered completely immortal? In his mind/soul exists only two: himself and Schrödinger. If Alucard can't recognize himself but Schrödinger can, then Alucard would still exist. Ergo, if Schrödinger can't recognize himself but Alucard can, Alucard would still exist. In turn, if Alucard and Schrödinger both agree that they cannot recognize himself (being one), then they do not exist UNTIL one decides they do exist again (quantum physics and theory of relativity).

I apologize because I study philosophy and quantum mechanics and temporal relativity.

(Machpovii3 21:29, August 10, 2011 (UTC))

there is 1 word 2 discribe hom....awsome!


Alucard and Seras ?

Hi so I've noticed that this wiki contains a lot of biased information about the relationship between Alucard and Seras which is kind of a problem because I know a lot of people, including myself, have a terrible subconscious habit of taking wiki pages for truth. Has it ever been proven that Alucard is in love with Seras, because as far as I know he never blatantly stated that he was in love with her but I don't know, maybe I'm misinterpreting something.

(Personally I hope not. I'm not really a fan of that pairing even though I like both of the characters very much but separately.)

186.45.12.135 00:22, November 24, 2011 (UTC) Danielle

Powerful Or Powerless?
Does Alucard still have all his other powers after he absorbs Schrodinger?

Yes, he has all of the abilities he had before he absorbed Schrodinger. I can't see how any of his abilities have been simply removed after absorbing Schrodinger. The only abilities that could have been affected would be his bloodsucking, soul absorption, and familiar summoning ability. I don't see how bloodsucking could have been restricted (not that he needs to suck blood anymore given he survived 30 years without rotting at all and he was simply hungry) as he can still freely suck/absorb blood without absorbing the soul (he chooses whether to use blood to steal souls or not). Soul Absorption can pose risks to him (but that ability is not removed or restricted in a sense, it simply has a major drawback to it) but seeing as he killed off 3 million souls within him within a span of 30 years without a physical body, I think he can immediately kill off the soul he absorbed before his body fades out of existence. And do remember that even if he does fade out of existence, he can simply kill that soul off and instantly return back to the world. He still has the ability to summon familiars supposedly by releasing the soul of Schrodinger as an undead servant, but this time it won't be numbering in the millions.

Relationship Section
I'm sorry. The entire relationship section of this article is incredibly bland and arranged terribly. I feel that the relationships Alucard has between the characters listed are too complex to be summarized in three or four sentences. Also, I noticed there's a bit of a war going on between whether or not Seras and Alucard's relationship is Father/Daughter or not. While I don't trust quotations that were not recorded via audio, video, or published in any official website/magazine/interview/etc, I do recall Hirano saying that their relationship was more than a Father/Daughter relationship. Also, I feel that Arthur Hellsing should be brought up in this section too. As I haven't read The Dawn, I cannot write that portion of the relationship section. Hopefully someone will step up to the plate on that one. Hakushaku 16:06, December 29, 2011 (UTC)

About the Trivia section
It says

" The two guns could also be a reference to Ebony and Ivory, the two trademark pistols of Dante from the Capcom video game series, Devil May Cry, with both pairs of pistols sharing coloration and large size."

I don't see how this is possible.

http://hellsing.wikia.com/wiki/Hellsing:_Volume_2

" It was originally released in Japan in December of 1999"

http://www.anobii.com/books/HELLSING_2/9784785919580/01018fafe5e34192e3/

"Pub date: Dec 01, 1999"

Whereas Devil May Cry came out in 2001 by all accounts.

Can / should this be changed? Because it seems that the opposite is true.

Trothyr (talk) 23:45, October 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * This sounds like fan speculation to me. In all honesty, this sentence has no business being written in an article and should be deleted. Thanks for bringing it up to discussion; I've taken it out.
 * --BlazingStar (My talk) 23:22, November 1, 2012 (UTC)

Last bit of trivia
That last piece of trivia, in addition to being horribly worded and spelled, seems to be speculation. Should we remove it? Xilinoc (talk) 05:11, December 2, 2012 (UTC)

Why did Alucard kill the SWAT team? Soldine1000 (talk) 01:25, September 2, 2013 (UTC)